Podcast Episode 283: Our Dirty Little Secrets: What We’re Afraid to Admit That We Don’t Know How to Do Transcripts

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JoAnn Crohn: And I think that’s what we do when we don’t have confidence in a skill. It really comes down to like the confidence you have in it versus the actual knowledge you have, because knowledge could be found on Google. But you need that confidence to know that , you will figure it out.

Welcome to the No Guilt Mom podcast. I am your host JoAnn Crohn joined here by the lovely Brie Tucker.

Brie Tucker: Why, hello, hello, everybody, how are you?

JoAnn Crohn: We are shamefully excited today for this podcast episode because we’re going to admit some things that we have no idea how to do, but we feel like we should know how to do. Right, Brie?

Brie Tucker: I like to call it, like, my dirty little secret. it’s the things that I don’t know how to do, I feel like I should know, and I try to kind of keep it hidden from other people that I don’t know how to do these. Quote unquote, basic things. and I’ll explain more about like why I call them basic here in a little, as the episode goes on, but like the things that you’re like, crap, I don’t want anybody, especially my kids to know that I’ve been BSing my whole life on that. I know how to do this when I really don’t.

JoAnn Crohn: Or relying on

Brie Tucker: Others,

JoAnn Crohn: to do them for you or your husband others I get so like bent up when I’m like I am relying on a man to do this I need to learn how to do this. This is shameful It’s not really shameful But you know I like to know how to do the things and make choices on what I do So if you feel the same way, you’re going to love this episode.

You might find a lot of similarities in the things that Bree and I don’t know how to do, and, , we’re going to challenge ourselves at the end and we’re going to challenge you as well. So without further ado, let’s get on with the show.

Brie Tucker: Okay, guys. Um, I know that we all have these. These are those, those things that, those skills that we wish we Okay, guys. I know that we all have those skills that we wish we had and we hide it from others. And I’ll admit, sometimes I do a little bit of a Jedi mind trick to try to convince people that, like, I actually know how to do it, when I really don’t. yes.

JoAnn Crohn: tell, me what’s the reasoning behind this?

Brie Tucker: Because I’m embarrassed! And I don’t want to admit that I don’t really know how to do it. Like, sometimes it’s because Okay, So like a big one that I had that started this whole thing. So like, if people that are in our balance community, we do Joe with Joe, well, you do Joanne does Joe with Joe in the mornings with our balance group.

And it’s like a time for her to connect with everybody, ask questions, like, and just kind of share things that are on their mind. And you were gone last week. So I got to do Joe and Joe featuring Brie. And. First of all, I am notorious for not being totally awake in the morning. My brain is not really functioning like on all cylinders until about 10 or 11 o’clock in the morning, which is after a joe a joe.

so I’m just rambling on these. Calls last week. And one of them, I don’t even know how I came up with it, but I was just like, you know, that one thing that like, you don’t know how to do. And my big, big secret kinda ish. I talk about it. So it’s not that big of a secret. I don’t know how to change a tire.

JoAnn Crohn: Oh, yeah.

Brie Tucker: Yeah. I don’t know how to change a tire. And I’m like super embarrassed about it. I’ve told my husband about it. , my ex husband knew I didn’t know how to do it. He was my tire changer for the most part. Whenever I’d get a flat. I’d call him and he’d come out and change my tire for me. And I feel bad because now my kids are learning how to drive and I don’t want them to ever get stuck somewhere and not be able to handle themselves.

So like I told my husband, when you teach the kids how to change a tire, I want to be there cause I want to learn how to do it. Like I kinda know, like I know you gotta unscrew things. I know where the jack is. I could probably figure it out.

JoAnn Crohn: Yeah. You could, you could probably figure it out. You don’t need him.

Brie Tucker: yeah, but I’ve never have because I’ve always called my dad, or my boyfriend at the time, or my husband at the time, or AAA. I’ve got backups.

JoAnn Crohn: my story around that is I got a flat on my car when I was probably 16 years old

Brie Tucker: Oh, that’s scary for a 16 year old.

JoAnn Crohn: yeah, I got everything in my car, but I’m really happy I did because my dad met me at the gas station and I’m like, okay, dad changed the tire. He’s like, I’m not changing the tire. You’re going to learn how to change the tire right now.

And it took us about an hour to change the tire. But like, He was there with me, even though I was super upset that I had to change the tire. I mean, I see it in my kids now where every time I try to teach them a skill, they need to learn. They’re like, uh, uh, uh, and I remind myself that I’m like, Oh, this is me.

This is totally me. But it took me about an hour changing on this 1975 Plymouth Valiant. but I did it then. And what happened was that when I, like my daughter was three, I was driving out to California with my mom. My aunt Julie and my daughter in the car, and we had all gone to Disneyland together.

We had taken her, like my daughter’s a three year old, like this great, like women trip. And then my mom and my aunt had walked the San Diego half marathon and we were driving back from San Diego and all of a sudden, like, you know, when you run over something on the road and then you feel the tire just deflate. I felt that.

and I’m like, no, and like, There was no real cell signal out there. There was nothing. And so I had to pull over to the side of the road and, we were able to get in touch with triple a, but my problem was I knew how to change a tire, but I had not kept the spare inflated in the back of the car. So

Brie Tucker: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You have to keep them inflated? Like, I thought they just

JoAnn Crohn: no, you have to keep them inflated. so

Brie Tucker: maintenance required on this spare tire?

JoAnn Crohn: required. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and it’s also smaller than your regular tire. So what

Brie Tucker: That I know.

JoAnn Crohn: is that, I did change the tire. AAA had to come and inflate it for me. But the cool thing is, is that with many cars, like it teaches you like pictorials in the owner’s manual that are, you know, the one you keep in your dash, how to change a tire with that car, how

Brie Tucker: Um,

JoAnn Crohn: and everything.

Brie Tucker: FYI, not everybody keeps their owner manual in the

JoAnn Crohn: Okay. You gotta do that. Keep the owner manual in the car. I

Brie Tucker: came with, like,

JoAnn Crohn: know

Brie Tucker: so big!

JoAnn Crohn: all you keep in your dash. Just put the owner manual and nothing

Brie Tucker: No, no, your dash is full of, like, your paperwork, if you get pulled over, extra tissues, a spare bag, an umbrella, a lot. Air fresheners. That’s

JoAnn Crohn: keep an umbrella

Brie Tucker: Yeah, yeah, I don’t want, but if it’s in the, that’s what I keep in my dash. What is, okay, we’re gonna have to do like an Instagram reel about like what’s in your dash, people.

JoAnn Crohn: nothing there’s old. Yeah. There’s only,

Brie Tucker: I have like a screwdriver in there. Whoa,

JoAnn Crohn: in my dash. I have just my owner’s manual. I have a center console, which is more of like my junk stuff. So I guess that goes in there, but

Brie Tucker: whoa, whoa, that’s not junk that’s in my dash. It’s needed things. I do have junk in my center console. Trust me. That’s where the gum is. and the cables to connect and charge the phones. Cause we have three. Uh, I did. Okay. So

JoAnn Crohn: to find room for that owner’s manual in your dash because it will help you in a pinch.

Brie Tucker: On Facebook, someone just said that they had like a tire.

Like, yes, I have a tire gauge in my dash. That’s in there.

JoAnn Crohn: That’s fine. Have the tire gauge in your dash. But yeah, so it does tell you step by step how to do it. So I did use that as my refresher course when I had to change the tire, but

Brie Tucker: Were you the only one who knew how to do it out of that carload between your

JoAnn Crohn: I was the only one. Yes.

Brie Tucker: Were

JoAnn Crohn: mom and my aunt were super impressed and they were like, wow, wow, you’re so impressive JoAnn. I’m like, I read the owner’s manual.

Brie Tucker: dad made me do it when I was 16?

JoAnn Crohn: Yeah, all it really takes is confidence when it comes to that. I think it’s, that’s true with all the skills. Like if you have directions, yeah, of course you can read the directions and of course you could figure it out. Of course. And I think we think skills like this are so far out of our realm. I mean, I have my own, I have my own. so I, I’m not really one to talk, but yeah,

Brie Tucker: learned a lot in this like couple of minutes so far about the depth of my not realizing what I did not know.

JoAnn Crohn: So here’s the thing with the tire though. Like you can’t drive over like 50 miles per hour on that stupid spare tire. We were like about like 80 miles away from the nearest pet boys or whatever, where I could get a full size tire. So I did drive 50 miles down the freeway with my hazards on, to pet boys.

To get them to change my tire. And so it just lengthened that whole experience, but we got, we were fine. It was all good. Got home a little later than we thought we would, but changing a tire helped in that situation a lot.

Brie Tucker: Okay. Wow. All right. I want to add a few things. So like, we’re live streaming this on Facebook and we’ve got some of the people that are watching that are sharing some of the things that they don’t know how to do. And then I have a list that I also made. From when I did it live on the Joe a Joe.

JoAnn Crohn: Okay. And we’re going to get into that list right after this.

Brie Tucker: Okay. So when this originally came up, I have asked people both on Facebook and in our balance group to share, what are some things that are your dirty little secrets that you’re like? Um, and I kind of feel like I should like that. I think that’s an important distinction here too. When I ask, I’m asking people, what do you think you should know how to do that?

You don’t know how to do, not necessarily what’s something that you want to learn how to do. and I think that’s an important distinction, but we’ll get into that later in the episode. So here’s some of the answers. Yeah,

JoAnn Crohn: distinction. Yeah. It’s like, you don’t want to put any effort into learning this thing, but you think you should. Okay.

Brie Tucker: exactly, cause there are, I do have ones that fall under that FYI. So. let me share what some people said. And I’m wondering in podcast land, just nod along if you’ve got some of these too. Not knowing how to work the grill or the barbecue, not knowing how to, figure out the TV remotes or the 15 gazillion remotes you got.

JoAnn Crohn: yeah, because usually like if you have somebody in your house who is very into audio There’s like 15 gazillion remotes and you’re like, why do we have 15 gazillion

Brie Tucker: shared that. So like when I moved into my, so post divorce first house on my own moved into it, I had a friend come over and help me set up the TV mainly because I just wanted somebody to tell me I was doing it right. But, I had it all set up and then my, I get remarried, my husband moves in and Miguel does all this funky stuff.

Now I’ve got four freaking remotes. I don’t know why, why does one remote turn off all the sound? I don’t understand why, why did you do that to me? So, so we have like four remotes now. So now I’m part of that realm of like, I don’t entirely understand why it doesn’t work. but some other ones that came up was, changing the shower head.

JoAnn Crohn: Those need changing

Brie Tucker: I, well, I, I’m going

JoAnn Crohn: like when you change it like to a massage, I don’t know

Brie Tucker: well, I’m going to guess they meant like changing it out and like getting a new one. And like, maybe if you live somewhere with hard water, you’d need to do that pretty, consistently, but also like for me, like so that kind of is me, like, I’m pretty sure I could do it if I had to, but honestly, if I wanted to change our shower head, I would just be like, Hey, Miguel, can we get a new shower head? We’ll go buy it. And can you put it in? Um, this was, uh, it like installing and electrical installing

JoAnn Crohn: electrical, I’m so afraid of it. I will be like, what, what wire do I connect to what wire now? What, what,

Brie Tucker: But I’m, I would venture that that’s an electrician thing. Like you could burn down your house.

JoAnn Crohn: I don’t, so I don’t think you can, like, I think I will. Like, I don’t know, cause I know how to shut off the power to the house. I know how to do that. I know how to go and like, if I flipped a breaker, I know how to reset. I can do that. And I know that when you’re working with electricity, all you do is you shut off power to wherever you are working before you do it.

but then I see all those colors and I’m thinking like, it’s panic almost. I should know what colors mean what, and I don’t, I don’t know what colors mean what, and so I’m going to fail. Yeah,

Brie Tucker: meme, and I’ll have to find it and like send it to you. Not a meme, it was like a video, and it was either on TikTok maybe both, where, , this guy is like working on, uh, Uh, electrical and it’s, he goes, so, uh, tell me who helped set up your electrical.

And he’s looking like very confused. And you hear this like old woman’s voice go like, well, that was my grandson, Jimmy. He’s really handy. And then the guy goes, oh, okay. And when did Jimmy’s house burn down? And she goes, oh, well, that was back in that five years ago. Wait a minute. How did you know? And the guy goes, oh, just a guess. Like, just to guess,

JoAnn Crohn: that’s my personal fear.

Brie Tucker: I don’t think that that’s an unjustified fear, but, so going back to the list, somebody had said that they felt like they didn’t know how to load a dishwasher mainly because they were told they didn’t.

JoAnn Crohn: I’m told that by my husband, I

Brie Tucker: I call that a load of BS, but that’s okay. Like there are

JoAnn Crohn: you know what, I, I will gladly take on that little bloat of weaponized incompetence on my part, because I feel like I don’t get to play that card very often. And so if they want to tell me that I don’t load a dishwasher, right? Take that, take that. You can load the damn dishwasher all day long. I

Brie Tucker: not my skill set.

JoAnn Crohn: Yes.

Brie Tucker: do somebody else said that they didn’t know how to hang something on a wall. And I was like, you tell me more about that. And she was like, well, the level, like using the leveler and stuff. And I’m like, okay, I’m going to tell you right now, I could care less if my stuff is like not quite centered. I really don’t. And you know what else I have found? Tacks and those 3M hooks with the tacky tape work wonderfully. I do not need to know what nail needs to be used for what item. If it’s heavy, I use a bigger nail. I know that much. What now? Oh, the Velcro ones,

JoAnn Crohn: I have the pictures on my wall back there are Velcroed on. I didn’t hang them. They’re Velcroed.

Brie Tucker: so like, again, like, this house is a testament to the shit Brie was able to figure out on her own and do in her own haphazard ways. I used a lot of tax. Cause I’m like, tax work? That’s good enough. Cause I had a lot of light stuff I was hanging. But anyway, I digress. Like, whatever. let’s see. Self defense.

Liz was like, I want to learn how to do a knockout punch. Now I feel like that’s going into a realm of not quite a dirty little secret. Like you probably aren’t feeling ashamed that you don’t know how to do a knockout punch, but that would be pretty damn cool.

JoAnn Crohn: But a knockout punch actually would damage your hand if you did it barefisted. Like that’s something that they don’t tell you in movies. Like when you see those fight scenes in movies with like people getting punched in the head, that’s very like that one punch will land you in the hospital kind of thing.

Like, it’s kind of ridiculous what they say for self defense. Like you can injure somebody pretty. Well, I took women’s self defense. I took a lot of women’s self defense. In fact, when I was in the entertainment industry, there was this company we were working with, I’m thinking of doing a show with them, teaching women how to defend themselves. And they would have a guy dress up in one of those suits, and, you know,

Brie Tucker: like the Michelin man suit.

JoAnn Crohn: Yeah. Come at you and swear at you so you can like practice all of your things under adrenaline, so that you could experience that spike. And I have to tell you, like, I was so sore after those classes. even though like, and I,

Brie Tucker: muscles you would use.

JoAnn Crohn: Yeah, you would get manhandled and kind of hurt to doing those self defense moves. but, just go to Miss Congeniality. That movie with Sandra Bullock, she tells you everything you need to know, like go for the eyes, go for the crotch, go for the instep. And you got the most painful parts on a person to

Brie Tucker: Oh man, I, I always tell my daughter like, just bite him, just bite him as hard as you can.

JoAnn Crohn: Yeah. Well, and if you, and if they grab your hair, you have to like grab their hands on top of your head so that they don’t have any control over pulling that hair for you. Yeah. So you grab your hands and then you use your feet to, like, get them.

Brie Tucker: okay. So you guys, just listening to this episode of No Guilt Mom, you are learning self defense.

JoAnn Crohn: There you go.

Brie Tucker: I’m going to say one more thing that somebody told us from the audience and then, at parallel parking. Thank you. Somebody from our audience is like, I don’t know how to parallel park and girl, I honestly think that that’s kind of like learning cursive.

That is something that I think is less and less needed because honestly, cars are like coming out with the ability to do it. but I get it. Like, I don’t think I’ve taught my kids really how to parallel park. Like we, we gave them like the basics of it. I feel like it’s just kind of those things that practice.

JoAnn Crohn: I’m gonna, I’m gonna ask you a question, Brie. how worried are you about finding parking when you go to downtown Phoenix?

Brie Tucker: not at all because I don’t drive. I

JoAnn Crohn: Okay.

Brie Tucker: do it. Okay.

JoAnn Crohn: So like, in urban areas, parallel parking is a necessary skill. when I worked in the mailroom at the talent agency, one of the things I had to do was go out and deliver packages. And it would be in LA. So I would be delivering to Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, like all these places where the only place to park is parallel parking.

And like you go to neighborhoods in California, and everyone’s on the street, and it’s so hard to even find a spot in your own neighborhood. Neighborhood because it’s all apartments and so there’s so many cars, but it’s one of those things like you get, you get better practicing it as long as you know, like you’re going, you, you have to line yourself up and then you do 45 degree angle and back it in. And then, yeah,

Brie Tucker: I agree. I do know how to parallel park. And I do agree that like, it depends on where you’re at. I think that for my kids and their life right now, they don’t necessarily have to know how to parallel park too

much. Even though I live in a neighborhood and you know this, like we live in a townhouse, there is street parking.

So my son can kind of parallel park and he does a good enough job. I haven’t taught my daughter how to do it yet. She’s turning 16 in July. So I should probably work on that. but I do think it’s like a dying art. It’s not something that you necessarily have to know how to do. I think that’s just my opinion.

JoAnn Crohn: I would say in this area, we don’t need it. I bet. Like, if you guys have comments on this, if you live in an urban area, we’re a parallel park. Let us know,

Brie Tucker: I want to know your thoughts on that. Okay. So after this break, we are going to share with you what our deep dark hidden secrets are. I shared about mine with changing attire. But we have more. We have more coming.

JoAnn Crohn: I can’t wait to hear that right after this, so we’re going into this deep dark secrets of skills we wish we had and are ashamed we don’t. And I’m going to need to think about mine, Bri, because I feel like I gave mine away already with the fan, with the

Brie Tucker: Oh, okay. In all fairness, I did have more time to think about

JoAnn Crohn: Okay, so I want to hear yours. What are yours?

Brie Tucker: I don’t know how to use the different settings on my washing machine.

JoAnn Crohn: Oh, I don’t know that either. I don’t think it’s necessary.

Brie Tucker: okay, all right. So that was the, the parallel parking earlier, but so, oh, oh, that leads me to another one, but I’ll come back to that. Okay. So the washing machine now, don’t get me wrong. I know the difference between a normal cycle. and a hand wash or a delicate. I know that. And I know cold versus hot versus like all of that, which by the way, if you live in Phoenix during the summer, there is only one setting. It’s warm. It’s warm. Like you don’t, yeah, you don’t even bother to use the hot setting because the, the water is already warm and there is no cold setting during the summer. We just don’t even have cold water. Just, I’m, I’m sharing a little tidbit about Phoenix there. So.

JoAnn Crohn: At least in the during the day. If you get it during the morning, you have a chance, maybe, of

Brie Tucker: Oh, not in my house. It is

still warm. There’s nothing but warm. So my kids do their own laundry and they come to me a lot to like help explain to them how to work things. And I will, and my family, for the love of God, they cannot figure out how to work the dryer. I have told them a million times and the dryer has even less settings.

Like we do not have one of those fancy front loading electric ones. Ours is old dials. It works fine. But I don’t know the difference between the regular casual permanent press and like what a normal is. That talks about like low and high agitation. I don’t know.

JoAnn Crohn: I

Brie Tucker: I tell my kids like, just go to normal. Well, what about that one? I don’t know. You can do that one too, if you want. What’s the difference? I have no idea. I did.

JoAnn Crohn: do, like, towels. If they have a towel load, I’ll be like, Oh, this is a towel. Towel load. Perfect!

Brie Tucker: Oh, see mine doesn’t do that. Mine is very, mine does not tell me that, but then like, you know, you go to the dryer and there’s a timed dry option and then there’s the dry cycle. And for whatever freaking reason, my family keeps using the timed dry and then their stuff never comes out dry. And I’m like, well, you guys stop.

Why do you keep going to that side? And they’re like, I don’t know. so I don’t understand how to use the different cycles on my washer and here’s my other one. I don’t really know when or why my car with the automatic transmission has a, has a first gear or second gear. I don’t know when I would use it. Not

JoAnn Crohn: don’t know when I would

Brie Tucker: Phoenix. Like I, and I drove a stick shift for many years. I, that was my first new car was a stick shift. Uh, Honda Civic drove that sucker into the stinking ground. like had to get the transmission replaced twice. so not saying I’m good at driving a stick, but I know how to drive a stick. And I do understand

JoAnn Crohn: I know the basics behind a stick,

Brie Tucker: but I don’t, but like, I don’t know why, like all I can tell you is like, my daughter asked me the other day in our Prius, she was like, we were doing a driving lesson and she’s like, so when would I use one and two? And I’m like, Oh, we don’t use that out here. Why? Oh, well, cause you need that for like, uh, bad weather and, uh, like, uh, dirt and we don’t have that. So just don’t worry about it. I have no idea if I was right or wrong. But you don’t know that.

JoAnn Crohn: now, now we’re going to have to do this cause I really don’t know them either. Every time I don’t know something, I have to Google it. So I’m like lower drive gears on automatic. Let’s see, let’s see what Google pops up for it. how and when to use the low gear in an automatic car.

it forces your transmission to basically stay on the lower settings. This is accomplished by restricting the amount of fuel flowing from the intake into your engine. Thus, it, in turn, reduces your car’s overall speed. Okay, here, here’s the,

Brie Tucker: I know it makes it go slower. I know that,

JoAnn Crohn: Yeah. Why would you want to do that? Because when the gear is restricted, your car is capable of exerting more torque. Basically, when you shift into low gear, your car gets slower, but it also gets much stronger. Capable of exerting more pounds of forward force, which can be especially helpful in specific vehicle scenarios or even emergency situations. So for example, if you’re towing a heavy load, like a trailer or a camper, it’d be really beneficial to shift into that lower gear. So, you

Brie Tucker: Okay, I do know that. I know that use a lo Well, I So you’re telling me that it’s on there so that my tiny little Prius can tow a trailer? And that’s the only reason I have it? Like, I I

JoAnn Crohn: To tow a load or, it says by shifting into low gear and increasing the car’s torque, you make it easier to, um, Yeah. Lug hefty cargo without worrying about the wheel slipping or falling down a hill. Um, and then there said there’s a second scenario. If you’re attempting to climb or descend a steep hill, shifting into low will put more power and weight behind your car. So I could see your Prius in that situation. If you’re

Brie Tucker: Well, I was going to say, like, I do remember living back in the Midwest where we had ice. You’d have to put your car into a lower gear when you were driving on ice. But again, we don’t have that here in Phoenix. So like, I’m like, I feel like it’s a, but I guess they’re not, I guess they’re not going to make cars just for the Phoenix.

JoAnn Crohn: Phoenix

Brie Tucker: roadways, but whatever.

JoAnn Crohn: The ice is it. So there we go. We got our answer. Now, you know, when you’re teaching your daughter to drive, you’re like, that low gear it’s for pulling heavy lows or for going down steep hills or

Brie Tucker: She does want to move to the Pacific Northwest So maybe I should share a little bit more about ice with her and driving in ice Do you have any others did this inspire anything that you don’t know how to do?

JoAnn Crohn: I don’t know how to drive a nice. I’ve never done it

Brie Tucker: Yeah But that’s what a dirty little secret. You don’t I don’t think you care about that one

JoAnn Crohn: No, I don’t. I don’t think I, I, most of the things like I don’t have dirty secrets when it comes to not doing stuff. I will openly admit it that I don’t know how to do it. And sometimes it gets me out of doing work and situation.

Brie Tucker: Like like loading the dishwasher

JoAnn Crohn: Like loading the dishwasher. I, yeah, I know the basics behind it, but I also, think that they’re being a little too particular about loading the

Brie Tucker: I

JoAnn Crohn: I really do.

I don’t think it needs that precision.

Brie Tucker: I agree. Okay. And here’s the deal. So like, I wanted to talk about this in the episode, like confirmation bias. So my kids suck. at loading the dishwasher. They are terrible at it, but I never tell them that they’re bad at it. I told them the basics of our dishwasher, like the way our dishwasher is set up, because again, dishwashers are different, but ours, glasses go on top, plates go on bottom, bowls can go in either spot depending upon where their space.

And then we also wash our like big utensils, like tongs or like, spatulas in the dishwasher. And we lay them on the top rack, like vertically, so they know that and they know basics about like, and I will, and I won’t say a word to them if they load it terribly, but I will go in and change it behind them

JoAnn Crohn: Oh,

Brie Tucker: I don’t know if they’ve paid enough attention. They’ve never said a word to me about it, but I don’t want to give them confirmation bias. That, that tendency to say, Look, I really don’t know how to do it because I want them to have confidence. I want them to, I want them to be like you, where you’re like, I don’t know how to do it.

I’ll just look it up on Google rather than, Oh, shoot. I don’t know how to do it. I’m just going to pretend like I do and never really learned how to do it. Cause I just don’t want to put forth the effort.

JoAnn Crohn: It’s funny. Cause I think it’s a skill that served me well in teaching because there’s a lot of teaching, you don’t know how to do things. You have to look it up before the class comes in. Like sometimes five minutes before you’re looking it up and you’re like, okay, I can teach it now. And the best thing is like when you, when you teach something, you learn it even better because you’re very aware of what you don’t know how to do and the holes that you need to fill when you try to teach it to somebody else.

Brie Tucker: Wow. That’s, that’s crazy. Like, I don’t know if I would have That I can do it fortitude, but I would try

JoAnn Crohn: fake it till you make it. That’s all

Brie Tucker: know you are you are much between the two of us I think that is definitely a superpower of yours that you have of the whole fake it till you make it I can do that in certain situations But I feel like it and I think you would agree that like sometimes I’m really good at faking it, but I cannot And a lot of times I, that fear just comes across my face and it’s like, nevermind, I can’t, I can’t,

JoAnn Crohn: I, yeah, I get how that works. I get that in a lot of situations too. Like, I mean, there are certain situations where I wish I was better at it. Most of it is about like, Pitching myself. I wish I had the confidence in pitching myself to other places, to like news outlets, to media, to other podcasts. And I do a good job if I like know the person well, but I get like so in my own head.

And I think that’s what we do when we don’t have confidence in a skill. It really comes down to like the confidence you have in it versus the actual knowledge you have, because knowledge could be found on Google. But you need that confidence to know that , you will figure it out. And if you get a no, it’s okay. And that’s something that I am, I’m working on all the time.

Brie Tucker: It’s crazy. It’s crazy. Okay. Well, I’m curious if people could share comments from this episode, you know, share with us. What is a, is a dirty little secret of yours that you don’t know how to do? That you’re like, Hmm,

JoAnn Crohn: we want to hear, we want to hear it. I want to give a shout out to a Liz and Tanya and Brittany who joined us today. Today live in the no guilt mom podcast group on Facebook, which we have a link for in the show notes to come and hang out with us there. Um, and, uh, also make sure you’re getting that no guilt mom weekly. Are you getting that no guilt mom weekly?

Brie Tucker: have a link for that as well.

JoAnn Crohn: We have a link for that as well, totally free. And you know what? Just by sharing it with friends, we get to show you out on the podcasts because you’re part of the no guilt mom community. So we are so, so excited to hear like, what little skills do you have? You might find yourself mentioned in a future episode or just connect with other women. And in the meantime, remember the best mom’s a happy mom. Take care of you. We’ll talk to you later.

Brie Tucker: Thanks for stopping by.